Ticket #661 (new Task)

Opened 8 years ago

Last modified 7 years ago

Controlled vocabulary for zero level model type

Reported by: charlotte Owned by: gerry
Priority: critical Milestone: V1.2 Questionnaire release
Component: WP6 - CMIP5 Questionnaire Version: beta
Keywords: controlled vocab Cc: bryan

Description (last modified by charlotte) (diff)

We want to allow users to edit the "type" field for the zero level model component. (follows on from ticket #596 )

This requires a controlled vocabulary for the different types of models (this ticket)
and a method to implement the controlled vacabulary in the questionnaire #662 .

Change History

comment:1 Changed 8 years ago by charlotte

  • Priority changed from blocker to critical
  • Description modified (diff)

comment:2 Changed 8 years ago by charlotte

  • Description modified (diff)

comment:3 Changed 8 years ago by mariepierre

  • Status changed from new to assigned

comment:4 Changed 8 years ago by charlotte

I think we agreed that the controlled vocab would go along the lines of

  • Earth system
  • Coupled Atmosphere-Ocean
  • Atmosphere Only

Are there any more for CMIP5?

Bryan did suggest AMIP but I don't think we should use this because amip is a type of intercomparison experiment not a type of model.
(AMIP - Atmosphere Model Intercomparison Project)

comment:5 Changed 8 years ago by mariepierre

Hi Charlotte,

I don't think either there is more than these 3 "Top-model classes" for CMIP5 (we still have to produce definitions for them - object of a next comment).

OK for using "Atmosphere Only" instead of "AMIP" (I think your argument is right)

One more thinking: Don't you think that the selection of one of these top-model class should (idealy) imply different structure in the model component tree? For instance, a user filling the qn may be somewhat puzzled if describing an "Atmosphere Only" model and being asked for description of its Ocean, Aersols, etc... components (this remark is more for ticket#662).

I know this (or something similar on the degree of "coherence control" by the qn) has already been disscussed on the Y2 meeting by Eric/Bryan?... But just to make sure that this is technically impossible (or too much painful) to implement.

comment:6 Changed 8 years ago by mariepierre

According to yesterday's telco, previous comment about coherence between modelClass (Earth System / Coupled Ocean-Atmosphere / Atmosphere Only) and the components appearing in the components tree of the Qnaire model main page is turned into a request for a simple "information note" and posted to ticket #662.

comment:7 Changed 8 years ago by mariepierre

Back on the 3-terms list...

After discussion with Sophie, it seems to us that "Coupled Ocean-Atmosphere" category can generate confusion in user's mind, i.e. what is the where is the frontier between "Earth System" and "Coupled O-A"?

E.g.: Is an atmospheric model coupled to an ocean one including sea ice, an Earth System or a Coupled O-A? Same question if we have an atmospheric model including the land component...

So the suggestion here is to remove this intermediate "Coupled O-A" category...

What do others think?

comment:8 Changed 8 years ago by mariepierre

Maybe I started by the bottom end...

Before suggesting modifications of the list for top-model classes, we should write definitions for each term...

Scutinizing the "CMIP5 Experiment Design" document, I realized that there was a clear definition for ESMs (p23):

Earth System Models: coupled carbon/climate models

So the alternate proposition for the list:

  • Earth System
  • Climate
  • Atmosphere Only

comment:9 Changed 8 years ago by charlotte

I agree, lets use this new version of the list.

comment:10 Changed 8 years ago by mariepierre

  • Owner changed from mariepierre to bryan
  • Status changed from assigned to new

As there's a concensus (between Charlotte and I... I recognize this is a light concensus :-), but anyway we have to go ahead), I reasign this ticket to Bryan for implementation in the Qnaire.

comment:11 Changed 8 years ago by rupert

presumably this has been dropped?

comment:12 Changed 7 years ago by bryan

  • Owner changed from bryan to gerry
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